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"Canada Just Got Played": How Mexico Stabbed Canada In The Back

In what was the biggest economic news of the day, Donald Trump concluded bilateral trade negotiations with Mexico, a deal which he called the US-Mexico Trade Agreement ( profiled previously )
and which will replace the trilateral NAFTA which has - for now at least - been scrapped until Canada also comes to the negotiating table and hammers out an agreement with the US (read: concedes), from a position of weakness and virtually no negotiating capital.

There were some odd twists in the announced deal, for example the agreement on the "sunset clause", which as some pointed out is strange as it is a "trilateral matter" - i.e., one which would involve Canada - and it was unclear how it squares with the U.S.Mexico pledge that their talks were purely on bilateral issues.

Confirming that Trump was engaging in some good old "divide and conquer", was the announcement from a White House official that, if Canada doesn't agree to a renegotiated NAFTA, it will go ahead with a two-way deal with Mexico, although another official claimed that splitting up the negotiations is "standard practice and not about squeezing Canada."

That may not have been exactly true because even though Mexico’s foreign minister Luis Videgaray said it’s necessary for Canada to be part of the deal, he then said that if a trilateral Nafta deal with Canada is impossible, a bilateral agreement between the U.S. and Mexico would also be acceptable.
At this point the alarm bells went off, and as Globe and Mail correspondent Adrian Morrow said,

", it looks like the U.S. and Mexico went far beyond bilateral issues and agreed to a pile of trilateral stuff without Canada." He also noted that while it was unclear whether any of the negotiated terms were okay with Canada, "it puts enormous pressure on Ottawa to agree or hold up the deal."

Furthermore, Morrow points out that unless Canada already agreed to these trilateral issues — sunset compromise, IP etc. — via its back-channel with Mexico, "the U.S. and Mexico have just massively cranked up the pressure."

In other words, Mexico just stabbed Canada in the back in order to get a deal with the US on preferential terms to Canada, just as Trump desired, and in vivid demonstration of applied game theory in practice.

Adding pressure on Canada, Morrow quoted Videgaray who said that Mexico’s deal with the U.S. is a "comprehensive" agreement, and warned that if Canada doesn’t reach a deal this week, it will be much harder for Ottawa to negotiate any changes to what’s already been agreed.

Which is a not very subtle ultimatum to Canada to get on board or lose any leverage it may have; and although Videgaray tried to wash his hands and said that Mexico can’t control state of relationship between U.S. and Canada, the message was received loud and clear.

Here Morrow makes two key observations: "because of U.S. trade law, it would be very difficult for the U.S. and Mexico to do a bilateral without Canada at this point," but confirming the dagger in the back interpretation, "it looks like Mexico is helping Trump turn the pressure up on Canada. They agreed a nearly-complete deal without Canada at the table" something which Videgaray confirmed saying today is a good day for Mexico, U.S. relations.


Turns out that the art of the deal does work on occasion.

Meanwhile, although it is possible that there’s a secret Canada-Mexico understanding here, if there isn't, "it’s hard to see this as anything other than Canada getting played", Morrow wryly observes, and adds that "Mexico is blowing up the Canadian spin that Mexico and the U.S. weren’t agreeing anything Canada needed to be at the table for."


As a final point, much of what was agreed today was "style over substance", as the substance of the deal (mostly) doesn't look that bad for Canada: Mexico gave up more with its concessions on autos. But as the Canadian journalist cautions, "this is definitely not how Canada would have chosen to negotiate, cut out of talks and now pressured from two sides to agree a deal in a week."

So what does being stabbed in the back by Mexico mean for Canada? Morrow concludes that Ottawa will "probably spend all of its negotiating capital this week trying to keep Chapter 19, which Mexico has apparently agreed to scrap, nevermind trying to defend on any of the other things it won't like in the U.S.-Mexico deal."

Said otherwise, Mexico made some concessions but kept its US market exposure, even as Canada is now cornered and has virtually no leverage or political capital left.





The winner from today's deal?




https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-27/how-mexico-just-stabbed-canada-back
 

Smallcock

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He keeps on winning for his country.
 

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I'm so pissed off with my government for insisting on presenting a "united front" with Mexico in the NAFTA negotiations. I knew, from the very beginning, that Trump was not interested in trilateral deal. HE SAID SO!!!! On number of occasions, but not one individual in Ottawa was listening. Now our nuts are exposed to the wolves and our bare asses to the wind. Fuck Trudeau!
 

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I'm so pissed off with my government for insisting on presenting a "united front" with Mexico in the NAFTA negotiations. I knew, from the very beginning, that Trump was not interested in trilateral deal. HE SAID SO!!!! On number of occasions, but not one individual in Ottawa was listening. Now our nuts are exposed to the wolves and our bare asses to the wind. Fuck Trudeau!
Trudeau was too busy letting illegal immigrants into the country and dressing up in costumes to worry about our biggest trade partner.
Another Trudeau fuck-up to add to the very long list.
Is it election time yet?.
 

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Trudeau was too busy letting illegal immigrants into the country and dressing up in costumes to worry about our biggest trade partner.
Another Trudeau fuck-up to add to the very long list.
Is it election time yet?.
Right on my Canadian friend. Poor Justin was more worried about how he looked as a "Bollywood" boy that dealing with the USA. Whoever thought he could even compete in negotiations on a business matter with Trump was smoking way to much dope! Has he ever had a job? Nope, never has. Just like Obama. Dont worry, Trump will give him some vaseline as he "bends him over" now on the negotiations. Tredeau is so out of his league. You guys are entitled to a fuck up election of him- look we fuckng elected Obama twice! Obama said Trump would never bring jobs back to the USA. Said " how is he going to do that"? That's because Obama like Trudeau knows NOTHING about business.
 

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Hey we love our Canadian neighbors but just like on any deal; looks like your idiots in Ottawa got out negotiated. Not the populations fault. Thats why we elected a businessman not a fucking politician this time. Is he a whore with women: probably so. Does he open his mouth and tweet too much; probably so but the fucker is fulfilling his promises. He is a business winner. Like an athletic winner- winning is contagious- its a disease you get obsessed with whether its business or athletics. You guys unfortunately elected a "name" , a pussy that knows nothing about business. Im betting and hoping you get rid of him. The USA isn't going to fuck our Canadian friends but Trump and crew may have won this Round and deal hands down. We love you all. We jointly protect our borders. Drugs arent flowing in like in Mexico. It will all work out but God I am sick of the Trump haters. Despise his personality, but you gotta love his results.
 

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That whole article is a bunch of I know SHIT. we shall see what the outcome is. Good luck passing a US-Mexico FTA in congress vs a NAFTA Renewal Act.
 

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Even a key Trump ally, Rep. Kevin Brady, the Texas Republican who chairs the House ways and means committee, expressed caution about Monday's apparent breakthrough. Brady said he looked forward "to carefully analyzing the details and consulting in the weeks ahead to determine whether the new proposal meets the trade priorities set out by Congress."

And the No. 2 Senate Republican, John Cornyn of Texas, while hailing Monday's news as a "positive step," said Canada needs to be party to a final deal.

"A trilateral agreement is the best path forward," Cornyn said, adding that millions of jobs were at stake.

There are political reasons to keep Canada inside the regional bloc.

"Mexico will have a difficult time selling 'Trump's deal' back home if Canada does not think it is a good deal," said Daniel Ujczo, a trade lawyer with Dickinson Wright PLLC. "It will appear that Mexico caved."
Delay over 'sunset clause'

Indeed, Mexico has said it wants Canada included in any new deal to replace NAFTA.

"We are very interested in this being an agreement of three countries," said president-elect Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador.

TRUMP IS A LOSER

 

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He's the worst we've ever had, makes me puke. Can't stand his voice.
SC was trolling for Trump. I believe you are whining about Justin - good looking guy, nice hair?

You appear to have a case of TDS. They have pills for that, maybe try Trazodone or Rohypnol and call me in two years.
 

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Meds you've been using for years ?
Ahh, you are embarrassed by your error. You forgot to put your brain in gear before your mouth.

No, been suggesting for years. Many right-wingers pissing their pants these days and I try to help the less fortunate.
 

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Ahh, you are embarrassed by your error. You forgot to put your brain in gear before your mouth.

No, been suggesting for years. Many right-wingers pissing their pasts these days and I try to help the less fortunate.
What error? He was being sarcastic about the idiot of PM. Its how you read it.
 
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