Soccer Results

johnnyhandsome · Apr 28, 2004

Romania 5 - 1 Germany
Czech Republic 0 - 1 Japan
Denmark 1 - 0 Scotland
Holland 4 - 0 Greece (Makaay, Zenden, Heitinga, v. Hooijdonk)
Hungary 1 - 4 Brazil (Fabiano 2, Kaka, Ronaldinho )

Holland is now undefeated in 23 friendly games. They havent lost since 1999.

johnnyhandsome · Apr 28, 2004

Germany got a nice beating!!

n_v · Apr 28, 2004

johnnyhandsome said:
Holland ... They havent lost since 1999.

Funny how I didn't see them in Japan/Korea 2002 and also were not champs in Euro 2000.

Snook.fr · Apr 28, 2004

they were in the Semis in 2000.....

johnnyhandsome · Apr 28, 2004

Holland is undefeated in 23 FRIENDLY games.
Thats not counting qualifiers and tournament games.
A meaningless statistic, really.

I'm shocked at the Germany result.

n_v · Apr 28, 2004

johnnyhandsome said:
A meaningless statistic, really.

Exactly. So why post it?

johnnyhandsome · Apr 28, 2004

n_v said:
Exactly. So why post it?

I'll post what I damn well feel like posting, buddy.
If you dont like it then dont read it!!

You're beginning to annoy me.

n_v · Apr 28, 2004

I don't want o be your buddy

the_big_E · Apr 28, 2004

you forgot to mention Italy/Spain 1-1 in the Baggio "farewell" game

johnnyhandsome · Apr 28, 2004

Baggio, great player, but will always be remembered for that penalty shot he missed in '94

Snook.fr · Apr 29, 2004

I agree...

I like his game when he was playing for Juve...until he got replaced by a certain ... Del Piero

johnnyhandsome · Apr 29, 2004

EURO 2004 odds as of April 29, 2004:

France 10/3
Italy 4/1
Portugal 7/1
Spain 7/1
England 8/1
Holland 9/1
Czech Republic 12/1
Germany 16/1
Sweden 25/1
Denmark 33/1
Greece 40/1
Russia 40/1
Bulgaria 66/1
Croatia 80/1
Switzerland 100/1
Latvia 500/1

How on earth can they rank Germany as low and England as high is beyond me. Portugal is also a little too high in 3rd place.

Pistol Pete · Apr 29, 2004

I can understand Portugal being high because playing at home is usually an advantage.
Germany is in tough in that group with Holland and Czeck Republic. I would be surprised to see them make it out of that one.

johnnyhandsome · Apr 29, 2004

Home-field advantage , eh??? Maybe in the world Cup but much less so in euro tournaments. Let's see:

1988 Euro was held in Germany. Winner Holland
1992 Euro was held in Sweden. Winner Denmark
1996 Euro was held in England. Winner Germany
2000 Euro was held in Holland. Winner France

Doesnt look to me like home sweet home helped them a
whole lot.

Snook.fr · Apr 30, 2004

handsome,

you just showed how STUPID and IGNORANT the people making the odds are.
I can deal with italy being second... but Holland and the Czech being after England????
HaHaHa.....

Pistol Pete · Apr 30, 2004

Good point on the homefield advantage Johnny. However, in all four of those tournaments the home countries made it to the semis and lost. I think that the oddsmakers are looking at Porugal having a good tournament. And once you're in the semis, anyone can win.
As far as Holland and the Czecks being after England, I see a bit of logic in it. Not because of England's strength but because the Czecks and Holland are in the same group as Germany. One of these 3 teams will not be in the QFs. On the other hand, England , on paper, "should" have an easier time getting out of their group.

johnnyhandsome · Apr 30, 2004

Pistol Pete said:
Good point on the homefield advantage Johnny. However, in all four of those tournaments the home countries made it to the semis and lost. I think that the oddsmakers are looking at Porugal having a good tournament. And once you're in the semis, anyone can win.
As far as Holland and the Czecks being after England, I see a bit of logic in it. Not because of England's strength but because the Czecks and Holland are in the same group as Germany. One of these 3 teams will not be in the QFs. On the other hand, England , on paper, "should" have an easier time getting out of their group.

You make a good point on the 3 countries of the group D but you're Portugal argument is poor because they rank their odds on who WINS the tournament and not on who makes the semi-finals or quarter-finals, as far as I know.
If I had to put money on it I would say Germany and Holland will advance out of their group and not Czecho.

johnnyhandsome · Apr 30, 2004

Here's how I would rank them:

Italy
France
Spain
Holland
Germany
Czecho
Portugal
England
Sweden
Croatia
Denmark
Russia
Bulgaria
Greece
Switzerland
Latvia

johnnyhandsome · Apr 30, 2004

Snook.fr said:
handsome,

you just showed how STUPID and IGNORANT the people making the odds are.
I can deal with italy being second... but Holland and the Czech being after England????
HaHaHa.....

Odds can vary from place to place. The source that I quoted was from SportingBet:

http://www.sportingbet.com/cgi-bin/event?id=57723&sport=FB

I havent checked Ladbrokes or some of the other bigger ones.

Snook.fr · Apr 30, 2004

If I had Money, I would put it on 3 teams Only.

1. Ze French : After their WC2002, they have to save their Face and the fact that they did not play this week shows how bad they want no one to be injured.

2. Ze Dutch : They have a Good Defence, Good Goalie and Super Midfield and Strikers out of this worls

3. Portugal : They always perform poorly during these kind of Tournaments but this time, in front of their People, they will be Transcended.

I wouldn't bet a Dime on Spain or Italy.

Just MHO.

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