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Has there been cases being charged for buying sex under the Bill C36?

hot.andy4u2002

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Hello friends,
I was just wondering if anyone actually heard about cases online or newspaper where someone has been charged under new bill c36?
 

Just looking

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Hello friends,
I was just wondering if anyone actually heard about cases online or newspaper where someone has been charged under new bill c36?
As far as I have read, Nothing but a few places where underage girls, and pimps and illegal immigrants with visiting visa and pimps living off the avails.
And still feel these are the only places the LE are really interested in.

I still hobby all the time, but only see my special independent ladies who have been around for a long time.
I have not had any problems myself.
 

hearthewind

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Actually I am quite concerned too

Something we should be afraid of is LE posting some fake ad online, record your communication, then bust you when you visit.
 

JakeLive

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Seems like it was street workers in Winnipeg that generated the arrests. That's always been the case.
 

oldjones

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Yes but under the new laws neighbours or hotel receptionists have the right to report illegal activities happening in their hotel/building and cops are supposed to respond to complaints and intervene to stop the crime
Which is a lot easier to type than to accomplish. While a hotel has a certain right to allow entry to rented rooms, your neighbour has no such right, and hotels must be wary of interfering with your Charter protected expectations of a certain level of privacy. Police who entered without other evidence than a complaint would have to collect proof of the couple having sex (part1) in exchange for money (part2). Without self-incrimination, that would not be easy.

In jurisdictions where commercial sex has long been illegal, police have found that sting operations give them the biggest catches at a cost their budgets can afford, but they also rely on well established legal precedents that closely define what constitutes a criminal offer to or from the provider. We don't have such case law, and as the experience with drunk-driving has taught us, any law that tries to set a level beyond which ordinary acts become criminal also gives the defence bar a large monetary incentive to parse the definitions and specifics of the law to the nth degree.

I'd suggest that the cops were basically content with the old law, as was society, but when faced with having to draft a new one, CPoC couldn't resist overdoing it to please their law'n'order rump. As before, I'd expect there to be little or no controversial enforcement — protecting underage kids and stopping forced/trafficked pimping was always OK, and still is — as long as operators stay more discreet and orderly than the proprietors of the notorious Bondage Bungalow managed to do.

Not to say that the reactionary CPoC rump will never grow larger and spread into something truly ugly, inspiring politically and ideologically-driven police chiefs to use the law and ignore any social disorder if it serves their agenda.
 

GPIDEAL

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Not to my knowledge except for underage victims and human trafficking or abuse by pimps.
 

legmann

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While a hotel has a certain right to allow entry to rented rooms, your neighbour has no such right, and hotels must be wary of interfering with your Charter protected expectations of a certain level of privacy. Police who entered without other evidence than a complaint would have to collect proof of the couple having sex (part1) in exchange for money (part2). Without self-incrimination, that would not be easy.

In jurisdictions where commercial sex has long been illegal, police have found that sting operations give them the biggest catches at a cost their budgets can afford, but they also rely on well established legal precedents that closely define what constitutes a criminal offer to or from the provider. We don't have such case law
Both good points.
 

drlove

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The doctor is in
Not to say that the reactionary CPoC rump will never grow larger and spread into something truly ugly, inspiring politically and ideologically-driven police chiefs to use the law and ignore any social disorder if it serves their agenda.
That's what worries me...
 

lomotil

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As far as I have read, Nothing but a few places where underage girls, and pimps and illegal immigrants with visiting visa and pimps living off the avails.
And still feel these are the only places the LE are really interested in.

I still hobby all the time, but only see my special independent ladies who have been around for a long time.
I have not had any problems myself.
If someone is assaulting you at home cops don't need a warrant+proof that a crime is happening there to break the door in order to stop the crime.
Bill C-36 made legally sex purchase equals to rape, so they are under obligation to break the door to stop the crime of a sex worker being raped (being paid for sex ).
Remember now under canadian law there is no difference between purchasing sex and rape, legally both have the same degree and qualify as a crime and sex workers qualifies as victim who need the cops immediate action to protect her from being paid for sex
Purchasing sex is criminal, but selling it is perfectly legal. Busting in on a prostitute could also be looked at as restraint of trade from the sellers of sex point of view and would be ripe for a challenge in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Bill C36 attempts to suck and blow at the same time and maybe that is why it is not being enforeced.
 

MPAsquared

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It's too late... what's done is done. No matter which party gets elected, we will still have to contend with C-36. It's the law.
With c36 yes. But that's not everything in life. Lol. The cons must be stopped for many many reasons.
 

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It's too late... what's done is done. No matter which party gets elected, we will still have to contend with C-36. It's the law.
But if the Cons are voted out, the new government may be less gung ho about enforcing it, which could set the tone for police forces across the country.
Also, C36 is clearly just as unconstitutional as the old laws that the Supreme Court overturned, so if it gets challenged the new government may not defend it too zealously.
 

MPAsquared

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But if the Cons are voted out, the new government may be less gung ho about enforcing it, which could set the tone for police forces across the country.
Also, C36 is clearly just as unconstitutional as the old laws that the Supreme Court overturned, so if it gets challenged the new government may not defend it too zealously.
If someone were charged today, it wouldn't get to the SCC until long after this next government.
 

drlove

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The doctor is in
But if the Cons are voted out, the new government may be less gung ho about enforcing it, which could set the tone for police forces across the country.
Also, C36 is clearly just as unconstitutional as the old laws that the Supreme Court overturned, so if it gets challenged the new government may not defend it too zealously.
True enough.
 

GPIDEAL

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If someone is assaulting you at home cops don't need a warrant+proof that a crime is happening there to break the door in order to stop the crime.
Bill C-36 made legally sex purchase equals to rape, so they are under obligation to break the door to stop the crime of a sex worker being raped (being paid for sex ).
Remember now under canadian law there is no difference between purchasing sex and rape, legally both have the same degree and qualify as a crime and sex workers qualifies as victim who need the cops immediate action to protect her from being paid for sex
Yes but under Bill c-36 prostitutes are considered the same as minors therefore not prosecuted because they aren't responsible of their actions.
There have been recently charges for purchasing sex in Winnipeg, although it was street level but the street workers in winnipeg were exactly in the same position you described and not trafficked , the charges weren't looked as restraint of their trade and we haven't seen any challenge

There are tougher fines or penalties or sentences when dealing with minors under C-36 so there is a distinction between minors than consenting adults, so I'm not sure if I agree with your analogies including that one for rape which is a violent crime.
 

oldjones

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If someone is assaulting you at home cops don't need a warrant+proof that a crime is happening there to break the door in order to stop the crime.
Bill C-36 made legally sex purchase equals to rape, so they are under obligation to break the door to stop the crime of a sex worker being raped (being paid for sex ).
Remember now under canadian law there is no difference between purchasing sex and rape, legally both have the same degree and qualify as a crime and sex workers qualifies as victim who need the cops immediate action to protect her from being paid for sex
An assault is violent; ordinary consensual sex is not violent. An assault can cause death,m and often is intended to; ordinary consensual sex does not. Any cop who tried to use your fallacious 'logic' to justify violent entry would, and should be, cashiered forthwith. Not to mention the possibility of obtaining proof would vanish as a direct result of such a stupid over-reaction. It's absurd beyond belief (not to mention the nonsense resulting from bad typing you couldn't be bothered to proof read) to say "…C-36 made legally sex purchase equals to rape, so they are under obligation to break the door to stop the crime of a sex worker being raped (being paid for sex )". The law says no such thing; logic suggests no such obligation and would support no such action.

You are wrong.
 
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