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scarbro_scamp

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Get informed, stay ahead of the game. Thank you to all who provided useful information in the C-36 threads. I really appreciate the self-moderating a lot of you did. Rational and intelligent human beings represented themselves well. Be good everyone. And if you can't be good, be careful.
 

lomotil

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Get informed, stay ahead of the game. Thank you to all who provided useful information in the C-36 threads. I really appreciate the self-moderating a lot of you did. Rational and intelligent human beings represented themselves well. Be good everyone. And if you can't be good, be careful.
LE will be under immense pressure when making the first arrests under the virgin C36 law especially if the person facing charges is the "average" john or privileged pimps with sophisticated legal resources such as owners of a spas, licensed body rubs or escort agencies. If the first arrest involves the purchase of sex from an underage prostitute, involves human trafficking or a black pimp, then the situation will proceed differently. That is just the way the ball bounces and is likely to continue bounce. The federal government will be watching very very closely as they must ensure that the neophyte law has some teeth.
 

Iseemine

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Get informed, stay ahead of the game. Thank you to all who provided useful information in the C-36 threads. I really appreciate the self-moderating a lot of you did. Rational and intelligent human beings represented themselves well. Be good everyone. And if you can't be good, be careful.
Well put. We need more positivity on here. We can be cautious, careful and positive.
 

thumper18474

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I'm pretty sure there WASNT a squad of L/E standing at the precinct doors waiting for the stroke of midnight to commence
Operation.."GITTER DONE"
They will take some time go through all the intel they have gathered over the past several months and do a strategic strike against someplace which will have the biggest impact to appease the powers that be and put the fear into the rest of us.

As was stated above....
Be informed
Be careful
Be safe

DONT BE STUPID!!!
 

Iseemine

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I'm pretty sure there WASNT a squad of L/E standing at the precinct doors waiting for the stroke of midnight to commence
Operation.."GITTER DONE"
They will take some time go through all the intel they have gathered over the past several months and do a strategic strike against someplace which will have the biggest impact to appease the powers that be and put the fear into the rest of us.

As was stated above....
Be informed
Be careful
Be safe

DONT BE STUPID!!!
HAHA. That would have been hilarious. A Spa Squad waiting for the clock to strike to roll out. Aviators and wind breakers on charging out the door to go catch some regular dudes who need a little escape and release.
 

scarbro_scamp

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Those last two posts could legitimately form the basis of a TV show. Operation Gitter Done: Inside the Spa Squad.
 

legmann

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I'm pretty sure there WASNT a squad of L/E standing at the precinct doors waiting for the stroke of midnight to commence

They will take some time go through all the intel they have gathered over the past several months and do a strategic strike against someplace which will have the biggest impact to appease the powers that be and put the fear into the rest of us.
As I said in another thread, this (ironically) might be the safest time to hobby in the post-C36 environment. Nothing is going to happen overnight; it may take months (or longer?) for police to gather intel, etc. before a sweep of some sort is mounted, and the largest number of individuals netted.
 

jdirector

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Or now is the most dangerous time as LE may want to have an impact right away. No one knows. That is the impact this new bill will have on the hobby.
I for one am just not ready to take the chance right now. Others may feel differently and that of course is cool.
 

Billy29

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Anyone know if an incall to a private residence is legal? I think I read somewhere it was.
 

bubble pop

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Anyone know if an incall to a private residence is legal? I think I read somewhere it was.
Paying someone for sexual activity is illegal, full stop. Sexual activity encompasses everything from masturbating during a striptease to a lapdance to anal.

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The following activities have been found to constitute a sexual service or an act of prostitution, if provided in return for some form of consideration: lap-dancing, which involves sitting in the client’s lap and simulating sexual intercourse;[31] masturbation of a client in the context of a massage parlour, whether or not the client climaxes;[32] and, sado-masochistic activities, provided that the acts can be considered to be sexually stimulating/gratifying.[33] However, jurisprudence is clear that neither acts related to the production of pornography,[34] nor stripping[35] meet the test. In most cases, physical contact, or sexual interaction, between the person providing the service and the person receiving it is required; however, acts for which consideration is provided that take place in a private room in a club and that are sexual in nature, but do not involve physical contact between the “client” and “performer”, such as self-masturbation, have been found to constitute prostitution.[36]

In short, whether a particular service meets the test outlined above is a factual determination to be made by a court. Applicable jurisprudence provides flexibility in addressing new ways of effecting prostitution, while also limiting the scope of such offences to acts related to prostitution, consistent with its objective of reducing demand for sexual services.
 
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Incall to a private residence:
For the SP: legal
For anyone who will take part of her fee: illegal
For you: illegal
Your chance of being arrested: fairly low
 

magnus666

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Incall to a private residence:
For the SP: legal
For anyone who will take part of her fee: illegal
For you: illegal
Your chance of being arrested: fairly low
I would say chance of being arrested, virtually zero. Unless the police have surveillance in the incall they are going to have a terribly hard time providing the crown with evidence that a crime took place. Unless the police are going for the nuisance factor I don't expect them to arrest you when then know the charges won't stick.
 

waynward

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This what I was thinking. As I live in a pretty upscale area and I live alone. I would think unlikely that my neighbours would call about "complaints". Considering they would have done so from girls I have brought home from the bar. Even so that's my business as an owner of my condo unit and a shareholder.

Sure my address is on file with a potential agency. But unless they stuff a camera in the SPs snatch how would they know what actually went on between two adults.

Because its those high traffic in call locations that worry me. Usually the ones I go to are those Asian Agencies by Yonge and Finch. Even though that's a good area, I can't imagine neighbours don't notice the high traffic and door being open and closed every hour. I used to live in that area too and something like that would be noticable.

Whereas my bringing the occasional girl here and there isn't nothing out of the ordinary with my regular lifestyle.

I would say chance of being arrested, virtually zero. Unless the police have surveillance in the incall they are going to have a terribly hard time providing the crown with evidence that a crime took place. Unless the police are going for the nuisance factor I don't expect them to arrest you when then know the charges won't stick.
 

wangbang

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Or now is the most dangerous time as LE may want to have an impact right away.
If it were me, one or two well timed sets of charges now would push sooooo many fence sitters out of the hobby and send the loudest message.

They have had all the time they need to gather intel.
 

Smallcock

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Who wants to be the first one arrested? All it takes is one.

Think of your wife, children, social circles, reputation, job, future employment.
 

gcostanza

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Who wants to be the first one arrested? All it takes is one.

Think of your wife, children, social circles, reputation, job, future employment.
Not married, no kids, my social circle respects individual's choices, I am not a criminal (well, until today), I am comfortable with my reputation as a decent human being, retired, so far as I know~won't need future employment.

Next question?
 

ripthejacker

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I was about to see an SP today. I got to the location and one of the first things I see is a police officer outside a Tim Hortons right beside the hotel. I pulled a u-turn and got out of there. The officer was in a regular car, not a cop car. His prescence probably had nothing to do with the new law, but I couldn't take the risk.
 
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