I have read, with vested interest of course, most of the C36 threads.
It is pure speculation what is being proclaimed by certain posters, that we have nothing to fear, but this is by those who either haven't really looked at the long term and very real personal and for some, professional consequences and those that have the very real potential of lost business, that come with regards to C36.
One can consult a room full of lawyers with regards to C36, but even their counsel is just their interpretation of the laws and how they see a way to argue a clients point of view. A lawyer with a moral dilemma would be the only one who would turn such a client down. As business owners, have you made it clear that your employees can be subpoenaed to appear in court and their real names and occupation will be made public? If you haven't done this, then you haven't made them aware of the risk to their anonymity and how this might affect their very real personal lives.
To say that this or that police force will not enforce a law is also erroneous and that Harper cannot make them enforce this new law. I am not surprised that if questioned, a chief of police, would say anything about how their force would go about enforcing a new law, one does not tip ones own hand after all. The statement "low hanging fruit" and who that pertains to is also misleading as it is all "low hanging fruit". With regards to how the police acted in the past, with regards to the profession, it will be on a complaint based system and anyone can lodge that complaint and tell the police about their suspicions or just lodge a complaint about something not related to the trade, ie; noise, parking, foot traffic, etc. With regards to the police and "low hanging fruit", the police will act as they always have, but now they are armed with new legislation and can enforce this law as they and the crown see fit. People will still get arrested. Some will see the inside of a courtroom as well. Lives on both sides of the coin, consumers and "companions", will get ruined. This is an indisputable truth.
How the police will go about laying charges and what evidence they will use is an argument that will be borne out in the courts. The assertion that the use of circumstantial evidence will not be a factor is also an erroneous statement. Many a case has been brought to light using circumstantial evidence and when fleshing the case out they uncover direct evidence that supports their original lead.
The bravado from those with everything to lose, after all it is a business that they have built, just like any other business, but they have to understand that we as consumers, have to look at the very real consequences that we would have the burden to bear. That burden can be personal (the demise of a family unit) and professional (termination, passed over for promotion, passed over as a job applicant) and can have long standing consequences attached to it. Anyone who has had to undergo a police check for a job/coaching/volunteering knows that your past can certainly haunt you if you have been charged. The bravado of other consumers is not my concern, but they have no need to call into question the decision that many have made with regards to C36.
Undeniable truths are, this law will have enforcement. How the police/crown make charges stick and present their case in court is an unknown, but know this, it will happen. The when's, where's and such are as yet to be determined.
It is pure speculation what is being proclaimed by certain posters, that we have nothing to fear, but this is by those who either haven't really looked at the long term and very real personal and for some, professional consequences and those that have the very real potential of lost business, that come with regards to C36.
One can consult a room full of lawyers with regards to C36, but even their counsel is just their interpretation of the laws and how they see a way to argue a clients point of view. A lawyer with a moral dilemma would be the only one who would turn such a client down. As business owners, have you made it clear that your employees can be subpoenaed to appear in court and their real names and occupation will be made public? If you haven't done this, then you haven't made them aware of the risk to their anonymity and how this might affect their very real personal lives.
To say that this or that police force will not enforce a law is also erroneous and that Harper cannot make them enforce this new law. I am not surprised that if questioned, a chief of police, would say anything about how their force would go about enforcing a new law, one does not tip ones own hand after all. The statement "low hanging fruit" and who that pertains to is also misleading as it is all "low hanging fruit". With regards to how the police acted in the past, with regards to the profession, it will be on a complaint based system and anyone can lodge that complaint and tell the police about their suspicions or just lodge a complaint about something not related to the trade, ie; noise, parking, foot traffic, etc. With regards to the police and "low hanging fruit", the police will act as they always have, but now they are armed with new legislation and can enforce this law as they and the crown see fit. People will still get arrested. Some will see the inside of a courtroom as well. Lives on both sides of the coin, consumers and "companions", will get ruined. This is an indisputable truth.
How the police will go about laying charges and what evidence they will use is an argument that will be borne out in the courts. The assertion that the use of circumstantial evidence will not be a factor is also an erroneous statement. Many a case has been brought to light using circumstantial evidence and when fleshing the case out they uncover direct evidence that supports their original lead.
The bravado from those with everything to lose, after all it is a business that they have built, just like any other business, but they have to understand that we as consumers, have to look at the very real consequences that we would have the burden to bear. That burden can be personal (the demise of a family unit) and professional (termination, passed over for promotion, passed over as a job applicant) and can have long standing consequences attached to it. Anyone who has had to undergo a police check for a job/coaching/volunteering knows that your past can certainly haunt you if you have been charged. The bravado of other consumers is not my concern, but they have no need to call into question the decision that many have made with regards to C36.
Undeniable truths are, this law will have enforcement. How the police/crown make charges stick and present their case in court is an unknown, but know this, it will happen. The when's, where's and such are as yet to be determined.