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Vancouver has always been far more liberal than Toronto in this respect, pioneering needle sharing sites and so on. Toronto is in turn more liberal than York Region.

My guess is that we get complaint based enforcement with an annual sting operation that will be made into a major media event, but otherwise enforced only when there are other concerns or a specific complaint.

York Region may run more frequent operations.

We won't really know for months. Likely by Dec 6 most police departments still won't have decided on a policy. It will likely be six months before we really know what to expect.
 
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“Our officers will still be guided by the principles and policies and procedures outlined in the sex-work-enforcement guidelines that we have,” Const. Brian Montague told the Straight in a phone interview.

I HAVE BEEN SAYING ..... over and over I have heard often TORONTO Police Force is guided in the same way & same type of principles & priorities .... AND that it will not be changing HOW they enforce .
 

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“Our officers will still be guided by the principles and policies and procedures outlined in the sex-work-enforcement guidelines that we have,” Const. Brian Montague told the Straight in a phone interview.

I HAVE BEEN SAYING ..... over and over I have heard often TORONTO Police Force is guided in the same way & same type of principles & priorities .... AND that it will not be changing HOW they enforce .
Still waiting to see that tweet you keep claiming you saw................

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Let's just hope that Toronto police has the same sensibilities with this silly law.

https://www.straight.com/news/77740...law-wont-change-policing-priorities-vancouver
Vancouver has beautiful scenery with its ocean and mountain views. But political and socially Vancouver is a confused ambiguous Lotusland. Vancouver is partially responsible for causing the old prostitution laws to fall in the first place. It was Vancouver LE with their disdain for prostitutes, particularly aboriginal female ones, that failed to meet the test of proper law enforcement and community policing. Vancouver police let Willy Picton elude arrested, not once, not twice but three times during which time he was able to continue murdering sex trade workers at will, feed their corpses to pigs and or grinding their corpses into sausages to be sold in stores in the BC lower mainland. Human DNA was found in those sausages. Very few actions of the Vancouver Police Department are logical or are to be emulated as they are about as efficient as the notoriously corrupt penny stock riddled Vancouver Stock Exchange was. The laissez- faire attitude on many issues in Vancouver, including substances abuse is to not only tolerate but also to facilitate. If prostitution is to be made illegal, it just might be from causation from Lotusland.
 
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Still waiting to see that tweet you keep claiming you saw................

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Since the first tweet I have not heard anything more ... If I did I would be only too glad to post. I am pleased the Vancouver Police have been open about their strategies. I know in the past the Chief of Toronto Police has done so as well, matching the same philosophies & strategies as Vancouver. BTW big cities like CHICAGO take the same approach to enforcement. I was open there for 10 year. Ontario being a more conservative Province with many little conservative towns I am gathering The Chief is being more quite in public ...... we can only hope we hear more from him. Up to now the Toronto strategy has matched the Vancouver one..... I have not heard or read to the contrary
 

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Since the first tweet I have not heard anything more ... If I did I would be only too glad to post. I am pleased the Vancouver Police have been open about their strategies. I know in the past the Chief of Toronto Police has done so as well, matching the same philosophies & strategies as Vancouver. BTW big cities like CHICAGO take the same approach to enforcement. I was open there for 10 year. Ontario being a more conservative Province with many little conservative towns I am gathering The Chief is being more quite in public ...... we can only hope we hear more from him. Up to now the Toronto strategy has matched the Vancouver one..... I have not heard or read to the contrary
Just waiting on the 1 tweet. Who tweeted it? When was it? Everyone would have noticed this mystery tweet. I call bs.
 

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Just waiting on the 1 tweet. Who tweeted it? When was it? Everyone would have noticed this mystery tweet. I call bs.
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Hey ! I want a treat . Where is my treat ?


Andy
Mmmm Right here between my......

Oh I haven't had enough to drink or smoke for this, it's been a headache of a day! Lol!

Andy, where's my drink!
 

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Vancouver has beautiful scenery with its ocean and mountain views. But political and socially Vancouver is a confused ambiguous Lotusland.
The laissez- faire attitude on many issues in Vancouver, including substances abuse is to not only tolerate but also to facilitate.
Agreed. It is bizarre study in mixed values. Forward-thinking and responsive on certain issues (safe-injection sites), and completely ignorant and indifferent to others (rampant homelessness, poverty).

The city's stance on C36 is admirable and encouraging, but likely borne of no reason other than Pickton.
 

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Actually what I was reading during parliament hearing is that Vancouver has already been enforcing the Nordic model the last few years by prosecuting only clients even before the last SCC ruling and Vancouver experience was shown as an evidence that Nordic model failed according to statistics.
In the past Vancouver used to use street stings, undercover female cops posing as street sex workers to decieve & bust johns & john's school.

"It’s illegal to pay for sex in Canada, including Vancouver. But the odds of getting arrested are slim...

"Months later police haven’t said whether or not a single charge has yet been made against a John under Canada’s prostitution laws, Mehat says it’s because the city is pressured not to act."
http://www.cknw.com/2016/06/14/draft-the-prostitution-trade-in-vancouver/

"As Vancouver fails to enforce prostitution laws, Trudeau government needs to declare its stance on legalizing sex work...

"In Vancouver, legalizers have been winning for a long time and are still, even with the Criminal Code changes..."

"Where there hasn’t been any debate for 15 years is at Vancouver City Hall, where councils have long pursued the stealth legalization of the sex trade. It dates back to the city’s 2001 harm-reduction model in the “Four Pillars Approach to Drug Problems,” which included a recommendation that prostitution be decriminalized....

"That same year, the Vancouver Police Department adopted its “Sex Work Enforcement Guidelines.” Since then, not a single person has been arrested for buying sexual services, not even after the new prostitution laws were enacted in 2014.

"The guidelines’ only reference to sex buyers is that police will enforce the laws related to the abuse and sexual exploitation of children and will “monitor and maintain intelligence reports to identify and track potentially violent sex industry consumers/exploitive abusers.”
http://vancouversun.com/opinion/col...-to-declare-its-stance-on-legalizing-sex-work
 
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