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d_jedi

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squeezer

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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...igh-profile-prostitution-bill/article20716890

Fuck Mackay.
Fuck Harper.
FUCK THE CONSERVATIVES (Once upon a time, I voted for them. I will not make that mistake again).

I hope Bedford makes true on her promise to expose the dirty laundry of each and every one of them. May they rot in hell.
I knew these Reform Party hypocrites were going to do exactly this. They need to go and be totally decimated in 2015.

The Committee, the Senate and the asking Canadians was all a sham. These NeoCons have had this in the works since 2007
 

lomotil

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Hidden agenda Harper with now not such a hidden agenda is at his zenith at present. Watch for the opposition to do absolutely nothing to stop this bill as it would be less than a zero-sum game to campaign for the legalization of prostitution for any party that wants to hold office.
 

bubble pop

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Hidden agenda Harper with now not such a hidden agenda is at his zenith at present. Watch for the opposition to do absolutely nothing to stop this bill as it would be less than a zero-sum game to campaign for the legalization of prostitution for any party that wants to hold office.
In our parliamentary system, what options are available for a minority opposition to stop the passage of a bill supported by the government?
 

TeasePlease

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In our parliamentary system, what options are available for a minority opposition to stop the passage of a bill supported by the government?
Filibuster. Keep talking until the clock runs out?
 

Aardvark154

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In our parliamentary system, what options are available for a minority opposition to stop the passage of a bill supported by the government?
This is the problem with the modern Westminster System which has evolved into what is effectively a unicameral system dominated by the majority party.

An Upper House in desperate need of reform, appointed by the P.M. and incapable of blocking legislation and the Sovereign (through her representative the Governor General), who almost never exercises executive powers. In other words a system without effective checks and balances.
 

rhuarc29

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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...igh-profile-prostitution-bill/article20716890

Fuck Mackay.
Fuck Harper.
FUCK THE CONSERVATIVES (Once upon a time, I voted for them. I will not make that mistake again).

I hope Bedford makes true on her promise to expose the dirty laundry of each and every one of them. May they rot in hell.
I agree with half of what Conservatives stand for and half of what Liberals stand for, so I've voted for both. But whenever I do, they always pursue the half of their convictions I disagree with.... You never win.
 

james t kirk

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Said it before, I'll say it again.

You can thank Terry Jean Bedford for all of this. Things were fine the way they were, but no. She had to go and poke a stick into a hornet's nest.
 

Ms.FemmeFatale

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yes, and we've all heard you. As if it she did this all by herself or something. :rolleyes:
Allan did admit that his timing was a little off. LOL

He will be of course offering his services for the next challenge too.

As for the push, I heard that I should be prepared to have all my clients site done for the end of October however they having 30 days to make changes once it becomes law.
 

bobcat40

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Filibuster. Keep talking until the clock runs out?
Not possible under Supreme Leader Harper. He puts a time limit for debates, and uses his majority to end debates. Even if theoretically someone just spoke for days, I think a rule was put in that the recorded day would still be the same day they started to speak.
 

rhuarc29

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Said it before, I'll say it again.

You can thank Terry Jean Bedford for all of this. Things were fine the way they were, but no. She had to go and poke a stick into a hornet's nest.
Sorry to break it to you james, but things were not "fine" the way they were. Everyone involved was at more risk than they needed to be. The industry needed light to be shed on it, needed to be regulated and programs put in place for women forced into the industry to get help. It's not her fault the Cons only addressed that last one...and only half-assed it at that!
 

TeasePlease

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Sorry to break it to you james, but things were not "fine" the way they were. Everyone involved was at more risk than they needed to be. The industry needed light to be shed on it, needed to be regulated and programs put in place for women forced into the industry to get help. It's not her fault the Cons only addressed that last one...and only half-assed it at that!
Hmmm, who was at risk? Everybody, you say? My cock and many others were just fine doing our thing and not worry about getting arrested before, as were many ladies who plied their trade within the grey zone.

Shed light, yes. Regulated and exit programs, yes. None of those are achieved through through a court challenge of existing law. We need social policy change for that, not new laws.
 

D-Fens

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Why is everyone so surprised at this? WE SAW THIS COMING. It will get Royal accent by November and be law by December.

Terb is safe. It's out of Canadian jurisdiction. Fred knew this law was going to pass otherwise he would have never bothered to move terb out. I'm sure other online advertising venues are doing the same, if they haven't already. I don't know what will happen with print ads. Escort agencies don't seem all that worried... Wonder what they are upto

Johns on the street could still be busted under the communication provision under the old laws so really nothing has changed in that regard. If they weren't afraid of arrest before why would they be afraid now?

Incalls and living off the avails were already illegal under the old laws. You could still have been busted for being caught inside a bawdy house.

These new laws are just the old laws in disguise with the added advertising ban which of course will achieve nothing.

Blame Terri Jean Bedford? Blame yourselves. You voted for these clowns in parliament.
 

D-Fens

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incidentally, incalls are now legal, as long as they're far from children.

living off the avails is also now legal, as long as there is no exploitation.

indeed an improvement for me!! I'm sorry that you guys are being criminalized I really am, but I'm happy that my future is safer.

These laws are the same as the old ones they just shifted the focus onto us instead of you but the end result will be exactly the same.

That was the cons plan to change something...without actually changing anything. The funny thing just how are the cops gonna be able to prove that the purchase of sexual services occurred? They can't wiretap my phone or read my e-mails and even if they did they still would have nothing because i don't mention anything about sexual services when I am booking an sp. Just how are they going to get a warrant to bust into your incall if you are technically not breaking the law? Do the cops have X-ray vision to see through walls? This law is so stupid and going to be so difficult to enforce.
 

bobcat40

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incidentally, incalls are now legal, as long as they're far from children.

living off the avails is also now legal, as long as there is no exploitation.

indeed an improvement for me!! I'm sorry that you guys are being criminalized I really am, but I'm happy that my future is safer.
I'm sure you feel happy now but I doubt many sex workers in Sweden feel their laws have made their lives any better. If they actually enforce the law, I doubt the likely police harassment of prostitutes is going to make you feel any safer. Many clients will probably cease to be clients if the law is actually enforced. As the justice minister has now said "Prostitution will be illegal in Canada" - for a current sex worker to have any joy on a law described in that statement is a little confusing to me.
 

TeasePlease

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wow ... just wow.

WE WERE AT RISK!! Not just safety but criminally too... we were all running illegal incalls before and subject to arrest you know .... but as long as your cock is happy .... the world is an ok place :)
Wow just wow.

1. Everybody was at risk before C-36? Everybody???

2. Does C-36 put greater, or fewer, individuals at risk of criminal prosecution? Are there more Johns than SPs?

3. How often were incalls busted in the old world? Was criminal prosecution a pervasive and significant risk for incall providers? (Judging by the thriving incall section and advertisements, probably largely a theoretical risk?)

My point is that for the world in which we live, the old system was ok (not good, but livable as long as you didn't frequent human trafficking joints). Yes, there are problems and there are women at risk in this world, but generally not those who participate in this end of the spectrum (the Happy Hookers, if you will).
 

wilbur

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incidentally, incalls are now legal, as long as they're far from children.

living off the avails is also now legal, as long as there is no exploitation.

indeed an improvement for me!! I'm sorry that you guys are being criminalized I really am, but I'm happy that my future is safer.
Unfortunately, your client base is bound to suffer. Existing clients move on eventually, so how to recruit new ones when (notwithstanding offshore websites) advertising will be illegal? What do you do when police start harassing your clients on the way in or out? It's happening in Sweden already, although Swedish police have lower standards of proof, and issue what is considered tickets.
 

canada-man

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incidentally, incalls are now legal, as long as they're far from children.

living off the avails is also now legal, as long as there is no exploitation.

indeed an improvement for me!! I'm sorry that you guys are being criminalized I really am, but I'm happy that my future is safer.

your clients will be criminalized you should not be happy
 

D-Fens

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Unfortunately, your client base is bound to suffer. Existing clients move on eventually, so how to recruit new ones when (notwithstanding offshore websites) advertising will be illegal? What do you do when police start harassing your clients on the way in or out? It's happening in Sweden already, although Swedish police have lower standards of proof, and issue what is considered tickets.
what do you mean "already" the law has been in effect for the last 15 years in Sweden, it's not like it was passed yesterday.
 
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