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Guilt kept him here. lol
If he took off, it may have been too obvious maybe?


Although they did crack on CNN this morning had he showed up in a Lamborghini to work.....that may have raised some 'brows. lol
 

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Unless he plays the same numbers every time or shows the other players the numbers he played [which he does not seem to have done, otherwise they would have known right away] how could they possible prove this.

If you win the lotto, what is there to stop some coworkers from getting together and making a fake claim. Oh yeah we played together blah blah blah. You can even draw up some fake paperwork and forge a signature. When you are dealing with millions, the potential for fraud goes up a lot. I know if I ever won and some coworkers/friends try that on me, I would want them dead. Literally dead, no joking around. Sadly I am too much of a pussy to act on it, not that it will ever happen.
 

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and then there was a guy in spain who's whole town won the lottery except him because he refused to join. I have a pool of 7 guys in the lottery and we all have a copy of the ticket and our signature on it. Everybody is in it even when they don't report to work that day. 7 names in the ticket.
 

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If you play with a group you should always get a copy of the group tickets before the draw. The bar code on a photocopy of the ticket is scannable at the OLG ticket-checker. Check to see if the tickets are winners yourself.

Unless he plays the same numbers every time or shows the other players the numbers he played [which he does not seem to have done, otherwise they would have known right away] how could they possible prove this.

If you win the lotto, what is there to stop some coworkers from getting together and making a fake claim. Oh yeah we played together blah blah blah. You can even draw up some fake paperwork and forge a signature. When you are dealing with millions, the potential for fraud goes up a lot. I know if I ever won and some coworkers/friends try that on me, I would want them dead. Literally dead, no joking around. Sadly I am too much of a pussy to act on it, not that it will ever happen.
 

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If you play with a group you should always get a copy of the group tickets before the draw. The bar code on a photocopy of the ticket is scannable at the OLG ticket-checker. Check to see if the tickets are winners yourself.
I would never play with a group. Nor do I ever play multiple draws unless it is the ontario 49 and that is only because I don't want the 50 cents in change back. Increasing my odds of winning from that of being gang raped by aliens to that of being crushed by hippo on a bender does not seem worth it. I play to liven up my dreams of the top prize, I'd rather have no chance of winning 50 million than no chance of winning 5 million.

It seems there are enough people out there who don't get a copy of the group tickets and the lotto people/legal system seems to have a bit more sympathy for them then I would. Protecting yourself if you are in a group seems easy enough, but how do you protect yourself when people want to claim there is a group when there was none.
 

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I've lost the pm. Who was asking me to check the flights to Yemen? :biggrin1:
 

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Each to his own I guess. It's always better to play with a group. Slightly better chances and it's cheaper. If you win and even if the share is $1million each, it's still much better than what I have in the bank. Your situation may be different:)


I would never play with a group. Nor do I ever play multiple draws unless it is the ontario 49 and that is only because I don't want the 50 cents in change back. Increasing my odds of winning from that of being gang raped by aliens to that of being crushed by hippo on a bender does not seem worth it. I play to liven up my dreams of the top prize, I'd rather have no chance of winning 50 million than no chance of winning 5 million.

It seems there are enough people out there who don't get a copy of the group tickets and the lotto people/legal system seems to have a bit more sympathy for them then I would. Protecting yourself if you are in a group seems easy enough, but how do you protect yourself when people want to claim there is a group when there was none.
 

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Each to his own I guess. It's always better to play with a group. Slightly better chances and it's cheaper. If you win and even if the share is $1million each, it's still much better than what I have in the bank. Your situation may be different:)

^^^ that.


Just like Jeffrey Toobin said this morning on CNN, wasn't $4 million enough for the guy? (assuming he wasn't wealthy to begin with)

Group play increases chances and it's cheaper, enough said.
 

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If you play with a group you should always get a copy of the group tickets before the draw. The bar code on a photocopy of the ticket is scannable at the OLG ticket-checker. Check to see if the tickets are winners yourself.
Yes you should check, but if the original ticket is cashed, then a scanned copy will only say "Paid out" or something like that, but not the amount won (whether free play or $). You'd have to check your #s and website for the winnings, unless you already know what the payout is for the various winning combinations.
 

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^^^ that.


Just like Jeffrey Toobin said this morning on CNN, wasn't $4 million enough for the guy? (assuming he wasn't wealthy to begin with)

Group play increases chances and it's cheaper, enough said.
That's why we're going to win this time Cobster. :)
 

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Each to his own I guess. It's always better to play with a group. Slightly better chances and it's cheaper. If you win and even if the share is $1million each, it's still much better than what I have in the bank. Your situation may be different:)
The odds of winning the big one for lotto max is 1 in 28 million

Consider 1 play vs 10 plays split among 10 people.

Odds of getting canonized: 20,000,000 to 1
Odds of dying from a dog bite: 1 in 20 million

vs

Odds of being killed by lightning: 2,320,000 to 1
Odds of spotting a UFO today: 1 in 3,000,000
Odds of dying from food poisoning: 1 in 3,000,000
Odds of getting AIDS from heterosexual sex without using a condom: 1 in 5,000,000


Do you really worry about the items in the second list more than the first. In real life terms the odds of either happening is 0, it is perfectly cromulent to round it off. If you really consider getting 5 tickets to actually increase your chances, you might want to avoid having coitus with prostitutes even with condoms.

OTOH by going in with 10 people and splitting it 10 ways mean Instead of dreaming about winning 50 million dollars, I can only dream of winning 5 million dollars.
If we assume return -risk-inflation-tax = 0 which sadly can be optimistic depending on time period.
If we assume a 50 year life span as none of us are babies
It is the difference between 100K a year and a million a year. That is a big difference. 100K a year is a good life, but 1 million is living large, it is Hugh Hefner girlfriends money. 100K is getting an escort for 2 hours once on the weekend money. I figure 15 million will afford me a nice pad, nice car, 2 hour hobby session a day and other incidentals for 50 years. 50 million and I can buy protection against economic fuckery. 5 million, sure it is nice, it will pay for a one hour session a day if I live on the street, or less as one transfers spending from sex to actually living, or more if one assumes a shorter life span, and it leaves nothing if your investment strategy falls short.

So in short I get a total buzz kill for no actual meaningful increase in my chance of winning.


Thought experiment. Suppose Canada was to conscript the entire population of the county under 65 to go fight the zombies. About 28 million people.
Would you be worried if you were told that only 1 person would die and everyone else would be home by tomorrow.
If an officer came by and said opps actually 10 people or even 100 people would die, would you curl into a fetal position and cry like a bitch? Would it have any actual effect on your levels of worry. Of course not, because you can be just as confident in your odds of going home. Is there a mathematical difference in the result yes, but it is not significant to influence behavior. In real life you ascribe the odds of bad things happening to zero when mathematically the odds are greater than winning the lotto by a wide amount.

If so, I suggest that you don't drive, take baths or for that matter ever leave the house.
 

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Hey FatOne, for someone who has put so much thought into this, you sure didn't put a lot of thought into Linux. lol



REEEELAX, smoke a fatty, fatty. :D


Don't be such a buzzkill. You live once, live it having fun.
 
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