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Cobster · Oct 22, 2010

Scenicdrive said:
Master Cobster, since your spell hallelujah wrong, lady luck may not give your full credit for your post. LOL!!! Actually Freddie is entirely willing to admit there is such thing as luck. He just does not think he is born lucky. Thus there goes his deligence with skills and strategies. Perhaps the good doc will join forces with Terb Lotto Syndicate and we shall all be very lucky. LMAO!!!

Doh! ...added the "U' at the end by accident, didn't catch it.
But since "youR" meant to type "you" without any due diligence (without the first "e") to spelling, I think both our posts cancel each other's out and let's just leave it at the fact that Fred actually mentioned quick picks can win sometimes. lol

...and you keep rackin' your brain while all the real jackpots go to those quick picks and others that don't try so hard.

I'll stick to once in awhile and enjoy life as it is.

fred Zed said:
For you I recommend Poker Lotto, or another Lottery that doesn't require thinking or any effort on your part..lol

Never heard of poker lotto, but you seem to know about it, care to share?

Cobster said:
Doh! ...added the "U' at the end by accident, didn't catch it.
But since "youR" meant to type "you" without any due diligence (without the first "e") to spelling, I think both our posts cancel each other's out and let's just leave it at the fact that Fred actually mentioned quick picks can win sometimes. lol

If you live to the ripe old age of 999 years and you buy one quick pick every week ...you might just win
the jackpot. Might. Since you are afraid of numbers stick to playing Poker Lotto and scratch tickets !!!!lol

Cobster said:
...and you keep rackin' your brain while all the real jackpots go to those quick picks and others that don't try so hard.

I'll stick to once in awhile and enjoy life as it is.

who isn't enjoying life as it is ?
I really have to move your quick pick nonsense to it's own thread so us adult people can talk about lottery strategy...lol
Problem with you is you don't understand numbers ..trying to explaining you things that require you to connect the dots is a waste of time.

fred Zed said:
If you live to the ripe old age of 999 years and you buy one quick pick every week ...you might just win
the jackpot. Might. Since you are afraid of numbers stick to playing Poker Lotto and scratch tickets !!!!lol

Fuck 999.
I don't play the lottery too frequently it's a once in awhile kinda thing...like tonight. Lol

Cobster said:
Fuck 999.
I don't play the lottery too frequently it's a once in awhile kinda thing...like tonight. Lol

For you I recommend Poker Lotto, or another Lottery that doesn't require thinking or any effort on your part..lol

Poker lotto:
http://www.olg.ca/lotteries/games/howtoplay.do?game=pokerlotto&ref=home_menu

Cobster · Oct 23, 2010

Wow did I hit a nerve or something? Fred took his precious time to create a thread for me? Awww, pookie! <3 lol

Fred Zed · Oct 23, 2010

lol...please don't trash the Lotto forum if you don't have something useful to add. Lotto is just game and some of the members like to discuss strategy. I know this does no make sense to you but please let them do so without wading thorugh your uninformed smart-ass comments about quick picks. etc

Cobster · Oct 23, 2010

Not trashing the forum, I'm just simply saying that quick picks works just as well as (if not better) than strategies.

Fred Zed · Oct 23, 2010

Cobster said:
Not trashing the forum, I'm just simply saying that quick picks works just as well as (if not better) than strategies.

A quick pick is a just a computer generated series of random numbers, there is nothing unique about it. Nothing. And no one is stopping you from buying one, but some of us want to discuss strategy, ok ? There is nothing that you are telling anyone here that they don't know already, there is no point repeating yourself like a parrot

Cobster · Oct 23, 2010

lol!!!! sensitive, wow.
Didn't realize it bothered you this much. You take your pot shots at me, so I egg on about the quick picks.
I guess it was the last one that got to you, the revelation "hallelujah" one. lol

Take a pill and relax. It's all in good fun, no feelings meant to be hurt there pops.

Fred Zed · Oct 23, 2010

yes..it does bother me when people are trashing the forum with useless posts, and uniformed arguments, it's my job to clean -up...

Cobster · Oct 23, 2010

Not trashing, just saying the other way works for the real big ones it seems in a friendly fun way.
You just took it a little too personally that's all, never have a running joke with friends in real life? Egging each other on?
What do you do, punch someone in the face if it hits a nerve?
There are TONS of useless posts all over the place by a whole lot of people.
Sense of humour Fred, lighten up, it's teasing and having fun - at least I should it was harmless (Sceneic saw it as just light jabs between people).

Peace out dude. Good luck.

Fred Zed · Oct 23, 2010

a joke stops being funny

when it's been repeated by the same person 50x and when it's thrown in threads where people are trying to have an intelligent discussion about strategy - besides your analysis is based on a misunderstanding
of the winning statistics. People in the Lotto forums are usually just interested in discussing strategies for winning a bit of money (Not millions.) or strategies for minimizing their losses. You have nothing to offer, right ? You just don't seem to get it..do you ?

Scenicdrive · Oct 23, 2010

Cobster said:
Not trashing, just saying the other way works for the real big ones it seems in a friendly fun way.
You just took it a little too personally that's all, never have a running joke with friends in real life? Egging each other on?
What do you do, punch someone in the face if it hits a nerve?
There are TONS of useless posts all over the place by a whole lot of people.
Sense of humour Fred, lighten up, it's teasing and having fun - at least I should it was harmless (Sceneic saw it as just light jabs between people).

Peace out dude. Good luck.

LOL!!! Who is "Sceneic"??? The best lotto strategy is a combo of luck and skills. Actually one can bring forth luck with skills. Go study up on some Mahayana Buddhist philosophy about causality. That may help you with luck. *Wink*

Cobster · Oct 23, 2010

...but more luck Seenick.

I'm fairly familiar with causality, studied a bit of it in University not too long ago. *Wink*

Fred Zed · Oct 24, 2010

Cobster said:
...but more luck Seenick.

I'm fairly familiar with causality, studied a bit of it in University not too long ago. *Wink*

While at University they should also have taught you how to think and solve problems ( including Lotto related problems ),and above all to take matters into your hands and not rely on luck to deliver good things to you, that's what a University education is supposed to do ! Or did you just memorize your way to graduation ?

Spacewalker · Oct 24, 2010

I'm not biggest fan of Oprah Winfrey, but she'll boldly and arrogantly mention again and again that she doesn't believe in luck. She's adopted the famous saying to all aspects of her life: "Luck is when preparation meets with opportunity." Really easy to make these claims when you are already a successful billionairess and one of the most powerful women in the media business.

Cobster · Oct 24, 2010

fred Zed said:
While at University they should also have taught you how to think and solve problems ( including Lotto related problems ),and above all to take matters into your hands and not rely on luck to deliver good things to you, that's what a University education is supposed to do ! Or did you just memorize your way to graduation ?

I busted myself to graduation and did incredibly well in my logical thinking class, but nice try pops.

There are all kinds of problems that may be solved in this universe, mathematical, logical, symbolic. People will choose which they care to solve by order of importance, IF any are in fact important (to them).
I'll dabble with the lottery ones once in awhile, but won't spend hours on end for it because the "chances" are the odds are against you and I do have better things to do. lol
It may help improve your odds but NOT drasticallyincrease them by any measure.
Ever hear the saying "the house always wins"? There's a reason the government has its hands as the sole proprietor of gambling, it's an incredibly lucrative business with the odds in THEIR favor.
Not sure how old you are, but you sound like my Uncle who likes to try to figure out the lottery and he's approaching 60 (and retired), he has the time to do such things.
I'm gonna assume you're of the same age or older, so if you have time, more power to you. I hope when I turn 50 or 60 I have the time do spend on guessing what next numbers come up.

Space, that kind of luck is different, I agree with her on that.
There's another old adage that my father told me a few times, "the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have", very true.

Lottery luck is nothing but that, pure luck. Working hard to figure out what random numbers will appear is not fruitless, but it's certainly not a big huge favorable guarantee that you'll score the "big one" on a regular basis.
If that were the case, everyone would be busting their behinds trying to figure out the lottery and playing every single day and collecting big bucks every single day. =)

...until you hear about "birthday dates" or quick picks. lol

Fred Zed · Oct 24, 2010

Cobster said:
Not sure how old you are, but you sound like my Uncle who likes to try to figure out the lottery and he's approaching 60 (and retired), he has the time to do such things.
I'm gonna assume you're of the same age or older, so if you have time, more power to you. I hope when I turn 50 or 60 I have the time do spend on guessing what next numbers come up.

Space, that kind of luck is different, I agree with her on that.
There's another old adage that my father told me a few times, "the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have", very true.

Lottery luck is nothing but that, pure luck. Working hard to figure out what random numbers will appear is not fruitless, but it's certainly not a big huge favorable guarantee that you'll score the "big one" on a regular basis.
If that were the case, everyone would be busting their behinds trying to figure out the lottery and playing every single day and collecting big bucks every single day. =)

...until you hear about "birthday dates" or quick picks. lol

lol..Cobster, what do you do with your spare cash and spare time. Play pin-ball machines at a game arcade ? Anyone can own a super computer these days. Crunching numbers shouldn't be a time-consuming process and it's fun, and no, we are not under any illusion we will win ' the big one'. There are many small lotteries that don't cost a lot of money and that have decent odds. You can win many times in your life time if study the odds and know which lotteries to play and which ones to avoid. A little bit of mental exercise for you never hurts. Your Uncle has the right idea.

And what did you tell us in your post above that we don't know already ?

Fred Zed · Oct 24, 2010

arthurfonzerelli said:
. The only way analyzing lottery numbers can produce any predictive abilities is if you assume that the numbers aren't randomly appearing.

That, plus there are many other ways to reduce the play field. Assumption is the key word. There are many different assumptions you can make about the possible behaviour of the data set. And if your assumptions are correct you reap the benefits.

For example here is some actual data on New York PIck4 Lottery:

Here is a summary of the actual data pertaining to New York Win 4 straight numbers. Note that, based on data available on this site, there are 4647 New York Win 4 straight numbers not yet drawn.

New York Win 4 Straight Numbers (Exact Order) Summary

Total number of draws = 7721
Numbers never drawn = 4647
Drawn one or more times = 5353

____________________________________

Based on the above if I were to purge all the combinations that have never
been drawn, that would reduce the play field significantly.

It is also true that you can almost always do better with your own system. if you know how to design a good one !

Cobster · Oct 25, 2010

Spare cash and time? Invest it wisely as much as I can, the rest if on food, gas and other personal expenses if the need ever arises.
Pinball machines? Sure when I was 15 maybe at an arcade on Yonge St, not anymore. I only own one video game and the gaming system was late in life, I never cared for them - played a lot of sports and hit the clubs, bars and lounges.

Why not have more grand hopes of winning the big won?
I agree about mental stimulation and my share of it on a daily basis. So I'm good there, numbers don't interest me much though, must admit.

Cobster · Oct 25, 2010

won - one (play on words, the board won't let me re-edit, so added that here)

Fred Zed · Oct 25, 2010

Cobster said:
and hit the clubs, bars and lounges.

Why not have more grand hopes of winning the big won?
I agree about mental stimulation and my share of it on a daily basis. So I'm good there, numbers don't interest me much though, must admit.

The govt always wins every time you buy a beer..lol. Realistically it would take at least 1000 years to win the 649 if one was playing a couple of dollars every week. I don't bother with that very much.. On the other hand I have $200 tonight playing Keno.

Fred Zed · Oct 25, 2010

arthurfonzerelli said:
"That, plus there are many other ways to reduce the play field. Assumption is the key word. There are many different assumptions you can make about the possible behaviour of the data set. And if your assumptions are correct you reap the benefits."

No, the only assumption that can possibly make you money (outside of sheer luck) is the one that says the numbers aren't random. You look for patterns and assume that those patterns are (or aren't) going to repeat. None of these systems will work (outside of sheer luck) if the numbers are being randomly selected. None of them.

The data for all of the lotteries I've ever looked at does not support the belief that the numbers aren't randomly appearing.

I don't think you fully understand with what I mean by reducing the play field.
So for example in a Keno 20/70 game you don't need 20/20 to win the jackpot, you only need 10/20
so you can safely reduce the game to a 20/50 game or even 20/40 game and still capture most, if not all of the winning numbers!
Just draw a random set of 50 numbers from 70 and go through the past draws - you will see that I am right.

And while you are at it calculate the probability of getting 20 out of 50 and the probability of getting
20 out 70 and you will see why an OLG Keno quick pick is a total rip - off. If you are playing Keno for 10/20 via a OLG Quick-Pick you are guaranteed to lose almost 99.999% of the time!

Anyway since the last time you said I was "just lucky" I have won again at least 6 times for prizes of $5k or more . I don't waste much
time with your "insights", if I did I wouldn't win any money !

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