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Goldman Sachs a screaming buy?

rafterman

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Ha ha ha.....with the SEC fraud allegations driving the stock price down but the franchise's cash generating ability intact now is the time to acumulate some shares.

Just in passing heard a business commentator on CBC today argue, quite convincingly, that the buyers of the toxic bonds were two "sophisticated" European banks that knew or should have known the risks of the investment they were making and simply made a bad investment.

In any event I suspect the GS results will be a catalyst for the markets today and specifically the banks.

Goldman earns $3.3-billion
Stevenson Jacobs
07:30 EST Tuesday, Apr 20, 2010

NEW YORK — Goldman Sachs Group Inc. said Tuesday its first-quarter earnings almost doubled to $3.3-billion (U.S.) as its trading business again surpassed the rest of the financial industry. It was a bit of good news for the bank as it faces a government civil fraud charge.

Goldman Sachs earned $5.59 a share on revenue of $12.78-billion as bond, commodities and currency trading buoyed its profits for yet another quarter. That was well above expectations of analysts surveyed by Reuters Thomson.

Goldman Sachs also reported sharply higher fees from underwriting stock and debt offerings.

The company said it set aside 43 per cent of revenue in the first three months of the year to pay employee salaries and bonuses, down from 50 per cent for the same period last year. However, the actual amount for compensation set aside in the quarter rose 17 per cent from last year to $5.5-billion.

Banks' high levels of compensation, including bonuses, have come under heavy criticism since the financial crisis that began in 2008. Lawmakers and the public have complained that the banks were rewarding the same employees whose risky trading practices helped plunge the country into recession.

The bank's stock rose almost 1 per cent in pre-opening trading.

Goldman, which has outperformed other financial companies for years, has been the strongest bank throughout the financial crisis. It had less exposure to toxic mortgage-backed securities than other companies and also has been more aggressive in its trading.

Yet the firm is facing its biggest challenge ever after being charged Friday in a civil fraud lawsuit by the Securities and Exchange and Commission. The SEC alleges that Goldman and one of its vice presidents misled investors who bought complex financial products that were expected to fail.

Goldman CEO Lloyd Blankfein in a statement thanked the bank's supporters without specifically mentioning the SEC case.

“In light of recent events involving the firm, we appreciate the support of our clients and shareholders, and the dedication and commitment of our people,” he said.
 

danmand

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Ha ha ha.....with the SEC fraud allegations driving the stock price down but the franchise's cash generating ability intact now is the time to acumulate some shares.

Just in passing heard a business commentator on CBC today argue, quite convincingly, that the buyers of the toxic bonds were two "sophisticated" European banks that knew or should have known the risks of the investment they were making and simply made a bad investment.

In any event I suspect the GS results will be a catalyst for the markets today and specifically the banks.
People who under estimate the power of the SEC do so at their own peril.
 

SkyRider

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Don't think it is a "screaming" buy. It is down only 10% from its prior SEC lawsuit price. I think Goldman, like Toyota, is "damaged goods". An investment bank's most valuable asset is its reputation and Goldman's reputation has been damaged. Clients can always take their business to other banks. If they lose too much client business, then Goldman will have to rely more on trading profits. The other problem with Goldman is that most of their revenue goes right out the door as salaries and bonuses and not retained for shareholders.
 

Nickelodeon

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This will be an interesting bet. Goldman is taking the position that they played by the rules, which boils down to buyer beware. In the stock market, one man's trash is another man's treasure (depending on the price).

SEC is saying that Goldman mislead their investors by selling what they knew to not just trash but toxic assets that were specifically design to implode.

This will play into Obama's hands for regulation.
 

Rockslinger

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Consider this: GS might be thieves, liars and scoundrels....but at today's prices, they can be working for you!
Don't kid yourself, the managing directors at GS work for themselves. They will rape the compnay for every dime they can. Most of the revenue that comes in the front door, goes out the back door as salaries and bonuses. Does anybody think that thieves, liars and scoundrels care one damn bit about shareholders?
 

danmand

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Don't kid yourself, the managing directors at GS work for themselves. They will rape the compnay for every dime they can. Most of the revenue that comes in the front door, goes out the back door as salaries and bonuses. Does anybody think that thieves, liars and scoundrels care one damn bit about shareholders?
Couldn't have said it better.
 

danmand

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Really?

I just read "No One Would Listen" by Harry Markoplos. He essentially told the SEC for ten years that Madoff was a fraud. They did nothing.

Now, if your SEC or Sarbox paperwork forms are incorrectly filled out... NOW you have awakened a sleeping paper tiger!
I didn't say the cleverness of the SEC, I said the power of the SEC.

Remember Conrad? he was doing just fine, nobody in Canada dared take him on, not the media, not the regulators. Then he made the
strategic mistake of insulting a FORMER chairman of the SEC, and he was done as dogmeat.
 
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