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His Majesty

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If i have 10k usd and want to convert it to Cad when should I do it?

I know this next question is very stupid but for some reason it's always perplexing to me, so I am hoping for the US dollar to go high and the cad to go low, correct?
 

danmand

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Rockslinger

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Just remember that you will not get the "wholesale" price but you will get the "retail" price which means 50cents per dollar less. If you want wholesale, you have to buy a bank.
 

Rockslinger

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I assume you meant 5 cents and not 50 cents.
Maybe I miscalculated. Does iTrade and BMO fix an exchange rate for the whole day or do they transact using a real time quote at the moment of the exchange? Also, how does one get a real time quote on an exchange rate? Can you punch in a symbol like for a stock?
 

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Maybe I miscalculated. Does iTrade and BMO fix an exchange rate for the whole day or do they transact using a real time quote at the moment of the exchange? Also, how does one get a real time quote on an exchange rate? Can you punch in a symbol like for a stock?
Miscalculated?
Nobody is going to ding you for 50 cents on the dollar, although I'm sure everybody would like to.
Even the Beer Store only dings you for around 10% for US$.

5 cents would be close to a typical bank spread between buy and sell on small amounts but if this is the spread for one or the other relative to the forex rate, than it is quite large.
At this rate, if the US/CAD forex rate was 1:1, you should be able to buy US$ for around $1.025 and sell US$ for around $0.975 for a total spread between buy and sell of 5 cents.
In this example of par, if you are buying US$ for $1.05 or selling them for $.095, those are not good rates.

iTRADE and BMO quotes are based on real-time forex rates.
I am talking about cash conversions, not foreign stock purchases made with different currencies, like buying a US stock funded from my CAD cash account. Those rates are not done in real-time.
For iTRADE I call them and for BMO I ask the teller.
I remember one time I lost around $5 on the exchange because the teller was wasting time trying to sell me some mutual funds before she processed my transaction.
It could have just as easily gone the other way but it didn't. :mad:
 

Rockslinger

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For iTRADE I call them and for BMO I ask the teller.
This is now really bugging me. How can an ordinary customer tell if the FX rate quoted by iTrade or BMO is the wholesale rate or their retail rate? I heard that banks quote only the wholesale rate to other banks and they quote the retail rate to, well to their retail customers (that's ME!). Then they tack on an additional 1% "processing" fee.
 

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This is now really bugging me. How can an ordinary customer tell if the FX rate quoted by iTrade or BMO is the wholesale rate or their retail rate? I heard that banks quote only the wholesale rate to other banks and they quote the retail rate to, well to their retail customers (that's ME!). Then they tack on an additional 1% "processing" fee.
I check http://www.xe.com/ for up to the minute forex rates to see how much they are going to ding me for.
 

Rockslinger

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Thanks. I suspect those are retail rates. WOW, look at the spread between the buy price and the sell price. Unless you are really special, I can't imagine a bank ever quoting the wholesale rate to you. That is like going into a Toyota dealership and they quote you their wholesale price (make sure you get brakes that work).
 

Malibook

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Thanks. I suspect those are retail rates. WOW, look at the spread between the buy price and the sell price. Unless you are really special, I can't imagine a bank ever quoting the wholesale rate to you. That is like going into a Toyota dealership and they quote you their wholesale price (make sure you get brakes that work).
US DOLLARS 1.0664 1.0184

The spread is around 5 cents which is what I said would be typical.

You were talking about 50 cents on the dollar.

2.5% or so is not outrageous.
 

Rockslinger

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The spread is around 5 cents which is what I said would be typical.
You were talking about 50 cents on the dollar.
Sorry, I did miscalculate. Got my decimal point messed up. 5cents sounds more resaonable than 50cents (mafia rate).:eek:
 

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I've been told that XE.com has a excellent currency exchange service.

Are you going to fund your ToS account, His Majesty? :)
 

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way out in left field
Maybe I miscalculated. Does iTrade and BMO fix an exchange rate for the whole day or do they transact using a real time quote at the moment of the exchange? Also, how does one get a real time quote on an exchange rate? Can you punch in a symbol like for a stock?
yeah, NO ONE takes a 50% cut on US currency, NO ONE. (maybe a crack head or a loan shark)
 

pista05

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Go to TD bank open a Border less Plan and then switch it youll make like 350+ with this account
 

Rockslinger

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Just remember that you will not get the "wholesale" price but you will get the "retail" price which means 50cents per dollar less.
Man, was I ever drunk last night. Of course, I meant 50cents per 100 dollars. Repeat: 50cents per 100 dollars.
 
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