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stinkynuts

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I have now reached a level where I can play all the blackjack I want, and not lose any money. I count cards. It has taken a long time to master it, but anyone can do it. I have made about $6000 over the last several months, with some swings. But I've come a long way. If anyone loves the game, but can't afford the losses, card counting is the way to go.
 

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Texas Holdem NL is more fun then BJ IMAO.
 

stinkynuts

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JEFF247 said:
How do you bet? With card counting you minimize bets til the card count turn in your favor and then you bet big. That's how most card counters are caught. How do you disguise your betting?

I've been banned from Rama (betting only 100 to 500 a hand at the high stakes tables). So, the key is not to bet too big. In fact, my spread was about $15 to 500 at the regular tables, and they never found out.

Now I keep my bet spread low (5 to 1). Casino Rama and Blue Heron offer beatable games. Avoid Niagara, as they cut off three decks, making it impossible to beat. Continuous shoe machines are unbeatable, since you can't keep track of how much of the deck is left.
 

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stinkynuts said:
I've been banned from Rama (betting only 100 to 500 a hand at the high stakes tables). So, the key is not to bet too big. In fact, my spread was about $15 to 500 at the regular tables, and they never found out.

Now I keep my bet spread low (5 to 1). Casino Rama and Blue Heron offer beatable games. Avoid Niagara, as they cut off three decks, making it impossible to beat. Continuous shoe machines are unbeatable, since you can't keep track of how much of the deck is left.
How do they "ban" you? Is it like the movies where some big security guard pulls you aside and tells you not to come back?
 

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Cut off?

stinkynuts said:
Avoid Niagara, as they cut off three decks, making it impossible to beat. Continuous shoe machines are unbeatable, since you can't keep track of how much of the deck is left.
What do you mean by cut off?

I usually play at Fallsview because the have more tables. Have you seen the Double Attack BJ (without the sucker bets) at Fallsview?

http://wizardofodds.com/doubleattackblackjack

".......the house edge is 0.62%."
 

goodandkind

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stinky is a liar i work in the casino and they would never ban anybody from an 8 deck shoe game they are impossible to count the minimun we are allowed to cut is 2 decks i have seen guys win 100-200000 in one night so dont think they care about your 6 gs in 2 months, if they kicked u outit was probably for being rude
 

oldjones

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O c'mon, goodandkind, if it wasn't for counting, then we all know the one reason they they would have banned stinkynuts.
 

stinkynuts

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JEFF247 said:
What do you mean by cut off?

I usually play at Fallsview because the have more tables. Have you seen the Double Attack BJ (without the sucker bets) at Fallsview?

http://wizardofodds.com/doubleattackblackjack

".......the house edge is 0.62%."

In an eight-deck game, only five are used up. Three decks are "cut off", meaning that the cut card is placed behind three decks. When the cut card comes out, it's time to reshuffle.

It's much harder to obtain high counts, so you rarely have the opportunity to bet big, when it's favourable. Rama cuts off two in their eight deck, and 1 and a half in their six deck games, making them "beatable". This essentially means that you can make a decent hourly wage. There is an online calculator that tells you exactly how much you can expect to make. With the system I use, I can make a pretty good earning.
 

Malibook

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goodandkind said:
stinky is a liar i work in the casino and they would never ban anybody from an 8 deck shoe game they are impossible to count the minimun we are allowed to cut is 2 decks i have seen guys win 100-200000 in one night so dont think they care about your 6 gs in 2 months, if they kicked u outit was probably for being rude
Betting 100-500 a hand and winning only 6000 over several months is fine but it is nothing special and certainly no proof that it is because of Stinky's card counting.
Someone betting 100-500 a hand can win 6000 or more in an hour or 2 without counting cards.

Counting cards well might increase your odds by 1% percent, maybe 2%.
It is hardly a reliable tool to make a steady income, especially for any particular hand or hands.

Lady Luck and knowing how to play are much more significant.
Finding a good table and seat and knowing when to move is most important.
 

antaeus

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for centuries games players have talked about systems they developed to consistently win.

Roman's loved dice games. Literature is stuffed with tales, even various caeser's, claiming winning systems.

None are true.

The only consistent truths are the house wins most often, and braggarts like to develop win systems.
 

RobertCortez59

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I tried to learn this a while back - I even purchased a couple books on it. My brain just can't work that fast.

maybe one on one with just me and the dealer - but when you have a full table of players - the game is just too fast.
 
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