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Papi Chulo

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I usually use XP Pro. I recently decided to try Linux. I downloaded Knoppix, a version which runs off a CD

Why would want / need to install Linux with XP?
 

albertp

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Most people run Linux as an OS because it's faster on systems with low end hardware. The only reason to run a dual-boot system with XP would be if you had some applications that only worked with XP.

Advantages to Linux are that it's FREE, more secure, and runs on most any system.

Disadvantages are that you may not have drivers for some of your hardware, and you'll have to configure it yourself. Also, some software doesn't work with LInux, and the FREE Linux comparable versions may be buggy and unsuitable.
 

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albertp said:
Disadvantages are that you may not have drivers for some of your hardware, and you'll have to configure it yourself. Also, some software doesn't work with LInux, and the FREE Linux comparable versions may be buggy and unsuitable.
I had downloaded the Live CD version on Knoppix which seemd to have all of the drivers for my system... installed much easier than the versions of 3-4 years ago!!

Is there any version which is better than the others?

http://www.linuxiso.org/
 
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albertp

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Just try them all out. I use SUSE, but the other versions like Red Hat and Gentoo may be better...
 

Papi Chulo

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Decided to download and try Fedora

Install looks like it went alright
 
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Linux is definetely a nice OS. I've been using Unix/Linux for more that a decade now and I am satisfied. I am using Mandriva 2006, 99% of the time. I switch to Windows Xp to watch or burn videos.

Linspire seems to be the best operating system for users migrating from Windows. For those intrested in a smooth transition from windows to linux or who are just curious about linux, you might try TUX, this is a free magazine about linux that is delivered to you every month in your email box,
 

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I recently bought a 250 gb SATA Drive and tried to install Fedora on it, But fedora does not even detect the drive since it's not the first primary disk
 

canucklehead

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I actually read something about that with Gentoo and kernal 2.6 ... something about the 250 SATA being slave.
 

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I advise Ubuntu for newcomers, just to hook them on. My favorite but ironically least used distro is slackware. I cut my teeth on it in 1996.

Knoppix is great and was revolutionary in its hardware detection and setup. Its a good demo livecd and a swiss army knife, but looks cluttered and confusing to grandmas. People used to Windows will appreciate the cleanliness and antialiased fonts on Ubuntu.. its beautiful. It comes in a liveCD too, but with fewer apps and repair tools.

If you have 1GB+ Ram, I strongly advise loading all of Knoppix into ram (its one of the boot options). Its faster than running Linux from the harddisk. If I could do that with Ubuntu, I'd be running that right now.

... OT ...

If you have an intel 910 chipset, please DO give Mac OSX x86 a shot. There arent many apps for it but I was VERY impressed with it recently. Go for 10.4.3, get the torrent.
 

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Knoppix, Knopp-Myth, Ubuntu, K-Ubuntu, Edubuntu, etc (google for sources) are all derivatives of the Debian Linux distriburtion. Red Hat is another "flavour" and provides derivatives such as Fedora Core. There are also other special-purpose derivatives, should your interests be more focused.

If you want something very easy to use, I'd recommend something like Knoppix or Ubuntu. After you're familiar with running it "live" off the CD, you can install it to your hard drive as a "dual boot" system (which isn't always an easy thing to do). If you want something reasonably solid, but probably out of date, there's Debian. Fedora Core is great for folks who don't really care if some parts don't work, but want other software to be the most recent.

In any case, they are each independent Operating Systems, and are NOT interchangable, even though they will have much of the same software.
 

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oh linuxses

Well I decided to jump into linux bin again after 8 - 10 absences.
I first started with Slackware 2 all text, command line. Didn't know any command lines just a few from what I saw the hackers at school do.

A few years later I bought from FS mandriva/mcgillan OS. Installed nice but it took sometime to figure out. Gave up.

This year I upgrade my system to the teeth. And bought two identical HD. One for Win the other for linux. I statred d/l debian which freaking took 2 weeks to finally get.
Debian went straight to text command line. didn't know how to start the GUI. Mind you I tried installing 32 bit /64bit.
In Chapter's(bookstore) I see this linux magazine selling with a suse copy dvd. I said why not.
Suse Intalled almost beautifully it couldn't recognize my video card so it went to some cheap boot up gui. After updating the files it went into a nice gui. Dual boot being graphical played around. like it . 1 hour to install. Actually all of them did.

Tried Ubuntu 1st Cd corrupt so I make another copy. I found it slow and weird and this is supposed to be great. I didn't like the background colour and it got frustrating trying to change the colours in the menu and others. Removed

Tried SimplyMepis, read the book, well laid out this is the book for everyone it even came with a dvd video instruction very easy 1 hour. I got the book at the public library. I decided to d/l latest version. Weird installtion gui /colour and it wouldn't install. I just gave up.

Then I went to Mandriva 64bit. At first I couldn't see the introduction screen. It wall all rainbow colours like the monitor just wouldn't die ...I could see their penguin logo but it was like watching old tv with rabbit ears, You could see something but .... then I simply selected by guessing what I wanted to do . Install or upgrade. Well it installed fine but found it that everytime I boot up the screen, all I was seeing is rainbow colours, I couldn't figure out which option was highlighted, if it was windows or linux to choose from the gui. Removed.

So I tried 5 distributions and/or copies of Linux. Debian 32/64 bit. Simplymepis; ubuntu. Kubuntu; Mandriva 64bit Suse 32bit all in one weekend. Last weekend.

So now I have Suse 10.1 - 32bit installed with windows.
Just d/l Suse 10.1 64 bit in CD ISO for DVD. Have to convert the CD- ISO to DVD ISO burn it then install it fresh. then I will stick to that one. after I figure out how to change the colours in the Title bars.

But for anyone that will try to play with linux constantly, like me. Take my advice.
D/L UBCD 3.3 ( ultimate boot CD) this baby saved me and helped me reformat my MBR. UBCD 3.4 is out and it is free.

Then d/l any Linux you want. They all have problems. Even after installing SUSe I went to their website and they claimed my version had problems no surprise there. I was able to sense it.

There is a mag "Linux-Magazine" which comes with some linux copy distribution in CD/DVD for each issue.
 

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Linux distributions

Thinking about trying out Linux.
Have XP now and know nothing about running Linux.
What's the best distribution to learn/use right now?
Are there any good free current distributions of Linux?

I have a couple empty 30 GB partitions on my HD.
How hard is it to run a dual-boot system with XP and Linux?
Do you just install Linux on one of the empty partitions then run it?
 

Papi Chulo

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I downloaded & installed SUSE.. once burned to DVD, it was a very easy install.

It has a coupld boot loaders to choose from and will co-exist on your computer with XP (I also have XP Pro on mine)
 

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Why did you choose Knoppix?
 

Cobster

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WoodPeckr said:
Thinking about trying out Linux.
Have XP now and know nothing about running Linux.
What's the best distribution to learn/use right now?
Are there any good free current distributions of Linux?

I have a couple empty 30 GB partitions on my HD.
How hard is it to run a dual-boot system with XP and Linux?
Do you just install Linux on one of the empty partitions then run it?
Wood, check out www.linux.org. Pretty good for nooobs like ourselves. :)
 

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Linux distributions are a bit like religion, no one suits all.

I think the answer as to what is best, depends on what you want to use it for. If you are planning to ditch MS altogether, then a fully loaded distribution is best. Servers present different choices from desktops. How well you tolerate learning curves, etc. are factors to consider.

If you just want to have a small simple usable Linux that you can use for browsing, email... then you can even use a small distribution that fits everything on a flash drive (Puppy Linux). You can boot from it and take it and all your config and files from machine to machine in your pocket.

A good website on Linux Distributions is http://distrowatch.com/ and a related article is at http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT3269115798.html

My favorite is Ubuntu. But I'm not that religious about it. Good luck.
 

WoodPeckr

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SUSE looks nice

This site gave lots of Linux info:
http://en.opensuse.org/Released_Version

Which is the better type of Linux installation to use, Internet Installation or Local Installation?
They both look fairly easy.
 

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Put in Fedora Core as a dual boot system

Anynym said:
....you can install it to your hard drive as a "dual boot" system (which isn't always an easy thing to do). If you want something reasonably solid, but probably out of date, there's Debian. Fedora Core is great for folks who don't really care if some parts don't work, but want other software to be the most recent.
Got a Fedora Core book, 'Linux For Non-Geeks', from a friend with 2 install CDs in it.
It was written by Rickford Grant, easy to read with good directions.
Did a "dual boot" setup with XP and Linux with no problems. Just followed the book instructions, it took about 30 minutes to install on my 10 year old 400Mhz Pent II......:D
So far no problems. Everything loaded as it should with no driver issues. It came with a ton of programs......everything, even a full version of Open Office and a PDF writer! Rickford Grant claims it will do everything Windows and Mac does once you learn it. It doesn't look that difficult to master after using XP and playing around with Vista and the Mac OS X the last couple months. The linux book is very helpful though. At this point I'm pretty impressed with linux. Much of it is intuitive and you can see some of the other OSs in linux.
It is different but in some ways the way things are done in Linux is easier than the way Windows and Mac does things. There are a couple neat features linux has that hasn't been copied by the big boys yet......and best of all as Rickford Grant pointed out, "it's all free".
At this point it's tempting to dump both XP or Mac and go with Linux. Linux has come along ways and there are better distros out now than this Fedora Core.
Was just surprised with all the apps that came with this 2004 Fedora linux distribution and how easy it is to get any additional apps you might want.
 
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