Yahoo! email server blocked by ISP due to spamcop registry

Anyone else run into this? Just curious. I just send a friend an email from a Yahoo! email account. It bounced. The error message indicated that the sending IP (YAHOO!'s) is on the spamcop black list. I checked it and sure enough..

SpamCop's blocking list works on a mail-server level. If your mail was blocked incorrectly it may be due to the actions of other users or technical flaws with the mail system you use. If you are not the administrator of your email system, please forward this information to them.
Information about the reasons for listing (blocking) your mail server (209.191.124.156)

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I checked ARIN just be sure and confirm the IP was Yahoo! (it is)

Yahoo and Gmail are now the webmail of preference. 1/2 the planet is using them. Wouldn't you think spamcop, which is a highly regarded registry, would know better than to list yahoo!, an enterprise level global email service?

And secondly, one would think that spamcop would need to receive a credible report before they listed a mail server as abuse. It's not like a real spammer (bonifide guerrilla marketer) would be pounding out emails, one at a time on a yahoo screen. So...anyone have any thoughts on this?

Strange...

WoodPeckr said:

Yahoo is one of several e-mails I've used for years with little or no problems.

The only glitch with Yahoo is every so often you have to update the Java which is easy and free.

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So it doesn't seem a little odd to you that one of Yahoo!'s email servers would have it's IP blocked by a major ISP due to the spamcop classification?

I have used yahoo since of the beginning of time as well. ISP's are in the habit of blocking spam IP's and spamcop is the big watchdog. I am surprised yahoo's IP are on this list. I have a email request into yahoo customer care, so we'll see what happens. They'll probably contact spamcop and give them what-for. I'm sure spamcop would like to remain in yahoo's SERPs

finally got an answer

well, I persisted with yahoo!'s customer care people for 6 days and several email exchanges later finally got a supervisor up the food chain to give me a straight answer. The first two front-line customer service people tried to push the problem back on my side, giving me canned response BS. I called them on it both times, and eventually only when I displayed irritation, i was bumped to a supervisor ( i asked). The guy admitted there was nothing they could do about it. (that in itself is probably a crock, the upper management just doesn't care)

The result is, there are a raft of ISPs that use spamcop's black list as an IP filter for incoming (mine is a large Canadian national provider), and at least two (that i know of) of yahoo's five send-mail IPs are black listed, so the mail you send using these IPs will sometimes bounce (depending on whether or not the receiving ISP uses the spamcop db as a negative filter). I'm not sure why i bothered with this, curiosity probably, but at least now I have an answer from the yahoo! horse's mouth.

End of the bouncing Yahoo! email saga.

MarkII said:

They are more than likely filtering your IP rather than Yahoo. Hence the yahoo response. You are actually sending the email from your provider, not yahoo, even though it goes through yahoo's smtp or pop server. You IP's addie is attached and thats what getting kicked back.

If you are in the habit of sending out bulk emails you will run into this problem.

It's not yahoo but your IP address that has been identified as spam. Welcome to the real world!

M2

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my my, we are presumptuous. How about asking a question first, before you go off half cocked. It was yahoo!s IP address that is listed on the spamcop's black list. Why don’t you check the farking issue before shooting off your mug with misinformation. You might actually learn something.

You’re wrong on all counts. Shows what you know, which ain’t much. I’ve only been immersed in the technology since 1994, how about you? How many servers do you own and manage? I have a bunch.

btw...the point of the thread from my perspective, was to demonstrate that Yahoo! is having the same problem as we smaller owners who own (rent) and administrate our own IP’s (I have a class C) I was surprised that Yahoo! the mega industry giant cannot get itself de-listed. An example of the problem, and how it works: earlier this month some competitor decided to foul one of my I.Ps. So, they sent out about 2 million emails using my domain and site as the target. Suddenly the ip received 5,000 uniques in about 4 hrs. within 24 hrs the IP is blacklisted. So now I am dealing with it. It points to a weakness in the system.

And please don't give me a lecture on how spam works...I know all about bulk mail from being on the receiving end.