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Shades

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I have an old VHS VCR...about 15 years old now. It flashes 12:00 at me constantly. I wanted to try to record the other day and found that I couldn't figure out how to do it....all the kids have left home and taken that knowledge with them. The process appears to require a PhD in computers to figure it out....
So the questions are:
Is there new recording tech on the way that makes it reasonable to download from TV to a DVD? Should I get a new writable DVD? ( I already have a DVD player that is not writable.)
Or should I get a new VCR? Are the new ones easier to program?
Many thanks
S
 
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Stay home and press the record button when fav program comes on. :D

My place is turning into VCR heaven, as people I heard I rescue few old units with more serviceable part and when time was plentiful.

Good idea with the pvr. DVD writables (with build-in harddrives) are still too pricey imo. While DVD-RW in computers are more reasonable, you'll need a TV card for your computer and harddrive space to store programs.
 

Tyler1

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The PVR is the greatest A/V invention since the TV. If you record alot (sounds like you don't Shades) they are amazing. It totally changes the way you watch TV. I record everything and watch it when I want and never have to watch another commercial again. You can pause, RW and FF (not live). Record two shows if you get the dual tuner. No pic quality loss. Recording is as easy as hitting record while watching a show or you can pull up the guide, scroll to he shows you want an hit record. No accidentally recording over anything or not knowing what's on a tape. I could never go without one. But I've always been a heavy recorder.
 

Shades

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Tyler1 said:
The PVR is the greatest A/V invention since the TV. If you record alot (sounds like you don't Shades) they are amazing. It totally changes the way you watch TV. I record everything and watch it when I want and never have to watch another commercial again. You can pause, RW and FF (not live). Record two shows if you get the dual tuner. No pic quality loss. Recording is as easy as hitting record while watching a show or you can pull up the guide, scroll to he shows you want an hit record. No accidentally recording over anything or not knowing what's on a tape. I could never go without one. But I've always been a heavy recorder.
Thanks for the info Tyler....but as you can tell when it comes to A/V I am a babe in the woods. What does PVR stand for and what is involved in getting it...hardware to buy...upgrade cable package from Rogers...cost? By the way, how does it work...is it stored at the cable company or on the equipment in your home?
 

bobistheowl

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I do a lot of transferring of older VHS tapes to .mpg and .avi video formats. I use a JVC HR-S5911U S-Video VCR, an ATI TV Wonder video capture card, SoundBlaster Live! audio capture card, and some combination of Dr DivX, Windows XP MovieMaker, and TMPGEnc.

An S-Video VCR can be used as a regular VCR, but it also has incoming and outgoing connections that can either input the analog VHS video to the computer, or record a video that's on your computer to a VHS tape. The video and audio capture cards are hardware that are installed into your computer.

I bought the S-Video VCR in 2003 for about $240. I can't remember the name of the store, but it was about three doors south of the Zanzibar on Yonge St. I had no luck looking for such a device in other electronic stores. Future Shop tried to sell me a digital VCR for about $1,300, and other stores I visited didn't have any machines that would do the job, but the manager in the Yonge St. store knew exactly what I wanted, and threw in a few connecting cables for free.

The video and audio capture cards were about $100 each.

I've found this VCR model to be high quality and easy to use. I've also found that if you ask for a specific brand and model on an electronics store, you'll usually be quoted a lower price than if you just ask for a device that performs a specific function.

You connect the S-Video VCR to the sound and video capture cards, and play the VHS video using the TV setting for the video capture card. It's like recording from television; you decide when to start or stop recording, when to pause, rewind, fast forward, etc. The recorded video from the VCR will be in .mpg/.vob format, which you can burn to DVD.

If you want to compress the video to a smaller size, (which I do, for file sharing), you can convert it directly to divx with Dr Divx, or another divx encoder. If I need to edit out bits of commercials, boost audio, etc., I encode the .mpg/.vob file to high quality .wmv with the XP MovieMaker, then convert to .mpg, (and do the editing), with TMPGEnc, (TMPGEnc won't convert .mpg/.vob directly. It must be in a different video format first).

The initial re-encoding could also be done with Dr Divx, or another Divx encoder. If you have a divx encoder that allows for audio boosting and frame-by-frame editing, use that instead of the XP MovieMaker, which is very slow.

If converting to compressed video types, you may need to change the file extensions to .mpeg for the temporary video files, (i.e.: the 'raw' capture and unedited video files that will be deleted, once you have completed the compressed video).

If you're recording from a store-bought VHS tape, with good sound, and no frames to edit out, convert the .mpg/.vob file directly to divX.

Many new DVD players, other than the $40 models, should have S-Video out, and you can connect to the capture cards in the same way as for an S-Video VCR. The ATI TV Wonder card has a colour diagram that shows how to make all of the connections.
 

Tyler1

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Shades said:
Thanks for the info Tyler....but as you can tell when it comes to A/V I am a babe in the woods. What does PVR stand for and what is involved in getting it...hardware to buy...upgrade cable package from Rogers...cost? By the way, how does it work...is it stored at the cable company or on the equipment in your home?
PVR (Personal Video Recorder) or DVR (Digital Video Recorder)
It is basically a cable box with a hard drive that records everything. They are extremely easy to use. Rogers has 2 types, Standard Def. and Hi-Def. You can rent or buy and I think you have to get the digital package to use the service though. It will cost more in the long run over a VCR. You have to decide if it's right for you. The best thing is you can rent for a month to see if you like it and is worth the extra $$. BTW, I think the SD-PVR is $300 to buy. A VCR is about $50.
I bought my HD-PVR ($600) which will pay itself off in two years if I was to rent instead. Plus I pay for the digital package and the HD package which Rogers just increased the price of. (I still have to call and yell at them for it. I'm actually on the phone with them every month yelling)

Standard Def. PVR
 

Shades

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Thanks bobistheowl...a little complex for a luddite, but I appreciate the time you took to respond.

Tyler1, thanks for the info on PVR...I will explore that option as well.

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